[MrSandMan]

Originally Posted by speakerjones

Likewise. I've heard that they're considering rolling back to vbulletin, but I don't think I'll ever spend as much time as I did. It was starting to get overrun by idiots and trolls. Oh well!

Hey speakerjones, that's great news if they do go back to VB! Is there a link to the rumor? I'm trying to keep up on HarmonyCentral news and would like to see what people are saying.

[TheLivingDead]

Originally Posted by MrSandMan

Cheers and welcome fellas. HC has really thinned out. The activity over there has dropped significantly. I really do hope they change back to vBulletin. All they had to do was update vBulletin and all would have been resolved. They were using outdated software and that's why the search and other things didn't work correctly.

Just curious.... If HC changes back to vBulletin, would you return?

Thanks for having us! I'm not going to stop going there completely, but I really do wish they'd change the vBulletin and other small things like bringing back the quick reply. They've already fixed some small things like now when you open a thread it actually puts you at the first post. But I'm, overall, just really disappointed with the entire change of the place. Unless they completely undo what they've done I doubt I'll be as involved with them as I was. Shame too... I was doing a lot of good business there. Ah well.

[speakerjones]

At this point they haven't officially said what they're doing, but they're doing something. Here's the link to the announcment (it's at the top of the page).

http://www.harmonycentral.com/commun...ew=discussions

Here's another comment Anderton made:

Re: The "We Listened" Message - THANK YOU HC!
What's being planned will be explained as soon as we can. There are still many details to be worked out and we don't want to give more details until they're nailed down. Unfortunately HC 1.0 remains a nightmare in terms of support. It's still problematic and if we have to return to it, then that brings up additional negative issues. But nothing is off the table, from a total rollback, to taking the entire site down, to removing all ads if that's what's causing pages to hang, to splitting off the forums, to many other options...unfortunately there are no perfect solutions. Each option has to be evaluated as to impact, feasibility, and ability to satisfy the community's needs.


What I can say is that every option is being evaluated primarily on the community feedback. Any other considerations (expense, timing, etc.) are secondary.


This is going to be a very difficult 24 hours, but we hope we'll have something at the end of that time period that we all can live with until we can find a permanent solution. Please don't speculate as to what we'll be doing, we're still in the data collection stage and that data will sort of make the decision for us.


You're right, I am doing everything I can to get this fixed but so is everybody else. What's not clear yet is what exact form that fix will take, but as I said, at this point nothing is off the table.

[MrSandMan]

HC is making this harder than it has to be. They keep talking about how Harmony-Central 1.0 was duct taped, pieced together, band aid', and a complete mess internally... but they seem to avoid the real solution is vBulletin 3.8 or 4.0 (cheapest and fastest) resolution to make the community happy.

Harmony-Central was an outdated and nulled vBulletin version, of course it was all messed up. It's like FireFox or any other software, it needs to be updated when new versions become available.

Please HC just use vBulletin 3.8 or 4.0! It really does not have to be this difficult and drawn out to resolve the issue.

[MrSandMan]

I was going to ask how things are going over there... from the looks of things, not good? I find the new color scheme extremely annoying to read posts.

Did they get a quick reply yet? That's a must have feature.

[Coralkong]

Nothing is really working over there, to be honest.

It's just too much to take, really.

If you know the history.....HCEG forums rolled out the beta version about 3 months ago. It crashed their servers within 15 minutes. It was awful.

People bitched and moaned and threatened to leave.

So they pushed out the same software with the same bugs over the weekend.

It's a disaster.

[MrSandMan]

I spent some time posting over there today and it's very slow as far as user activity. Seems to be common for posts like "I'm really struggling" and "this is so confusing".

It does seem buggy. I think they'll eventually get the bugs worked out, but what bothers me the most is the design. It's just so annoying to read. The contrast is awful.

I've been a member on H-C since 2007 and have over 3,100 posts. It was my second favorite forum.... until now.

[SteveO]

Sand-Man, Like you I had been there since 2003 the 2nd time around as I originally was there since 2000 when LittleBrother was the Moderator of the AG section.


Regards,


SteveO

[MrSandMan]

Did you guys read the thread by Craig Anderton? “Yes, there are major problems. Here’s what we’re doing about it.” - That thread turned quite ugly.

Then there are threads like “An open letter to Craig Anderton about what’s left of HC” that threatens mass user revolt. To me, it’s hard to imagine that HC will keep this new design up. At what point do they say "fine, this was a failure... we're going to upgrade to vBulletin 4.0". I think people will rejoice if they said that. That said, it might be too late for others to come back. I think this experiment left a sour taste in a lot of peoples' mouths.

[Uncle Fester]

Originally Posted by MrSandMan

Did you guys read the thread by Craig Anderton? “Yes, there are major problems. Here’s what we’re doing about it.” - That thread turned quite ugly.

Then there are threads like “An open letter to Craig Anderton about what’s left of HC” that threatens mass user revolt. To me, it’s hard to imagine that HC will keep this new design up. At what point do they say "fine, this was a failure... we're going to upgrade to vBulletin 4.0". I think people will rejoice if they said that. That said, it might be too late for others to come back. I think this experiment left a sour taste in a lot of peoples' mouths.

How much negative stuff, does one have to hear, before one admits it was a dismal failure? Methinks there is a larger picture at work here, either wanting more ad space, or something other. Also notice all of the non-music related ads now.

Seems an awful lot has already been invested in this abortion, to admit defeat now, if in fact, HC sees this as defeat.