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Default Anyone know how to work with Tolex/vinyl? - 07-27-2008, 12:48 PM

I'm thinking of recovering my Crate XT120, nothings wrong with the Tolex covering it now except it's boring. The 2 places I found some at sell it by the yard ie: 36" x 54". About how much would I need for a 2x12 combo amp? Do you have to peel the old covering off? Whats the best glue to use? Do you try to use just one piece to cover the cab? Meaning do you try to make it "seamless" ? Thanks for any info. BTW here's the links to the sites I found the material at, now I just gotta make up my mind on which color.

http://www.vibroworld.com/parts/tech11.html#fabric2
http://www.lopoline.com/vinyl.html

Edit: I have to add, I am getting a new half stack in the next 3-4 months(sadly not the one I REALLY wanted), and am gonna use this amp as a back up, as well as practice for recovering with vinyl/tolex. The amp I'm getting is a Bugera 333xl, but I'm gonna recover it so it looks like "my" amp.


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Default Re: Anyone know how to work with Tolex/vinyl? - 07-27-2008, 01:03 PM

Tolex is an art of its own... I never did anything intense other than do some basic repairs on rips and tears on head shells and cabs.

My "guess" would to be heat up the glue to peal off the old Tolex. Otherwise you may have to do some sanding.

Where is Vintageheadbox when we need him? You might want to consult with him. He's a master at that stuff.


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Default Re: Anyone know how to work with Tolex/vinyl? - 07-27-2008, 05:30 PM

Thanks, maybe I'll PM him.


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Default Re: Anyone know how to work with Tolex/vinyl? - 08-10-2008, 11:55 PM

Wow....it's been a long time, but I used to work in a shop that customized vans. I've covered just about every kind of panel there is with vinyl or fabric. We used industrial glues that looked like sticky horse snot from an animal with a sinus infection. Heavy duty stuff from big drums that we'd spray with paint sprayers adapted with bigger nozzles. Very occasionally, we'd used 3M spay cans for spot work at a dealership. And hog rings. Thousands and thousands of hog rings (don't use those for your project).

I could probably explain how to make a nice neat corner using vinyl if you get stuck at such a spot. FWIW.

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Default Re: Anyone know how to work with Tolex/vinyl? - 08-11-2008, 10:35 AM

Thanks bro!! I'll let you know if I get stuck. Just getting started is the main problem though. I don't know if it's supposed to go on in one peice, or pieces, and there's some trick to hiding the seams.


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Default Re: Anyone know how to work with Tolex/vinyl? - 08-11-2008, 07:49 PM

I'd definitely try to keep seams to a minimum. Maybe just one on the bottom if possible.

If you peel off the old cover, you could use it as a template. I used to do that with seat upholstery.
  
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Default Re: Anyone know how to work with Tolex/vinyl? - 08-11-2008, 09:32 PM

Cool, thanks for the tip.


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Default Re: Anyone know how to work with Tolex/vinyl? - 08-19-2008, 11:39 PM

Ok not sure if I am to late to add 2 cents or not but here goes . To get the tolex off a bit easier take a damp NOT WET towel and use a house iron dont hold it to long and you will have to re dampen the towel but place towel on where you want to peal it off and then run iron over to get it good and hot and it should peal off easier. before putting tolex on you will need contact cement get the yellow looking type not the bluish kind for counter tops I would do this on a warm day lay your tolex or vinal out side in the sun let it get good and warm always trim it a little larger then you need but pre cut it before you warm it. what will happen after you glue it and it cools it will get nice and tight if you put it on cold it wont get as tight over lap seems and then use a strait edge and a razor and cut through both peaces on your main seam then peal off access it is an art form to do this if you can I would practice a bit with some cheap cloth from like wal-mart on triming and stuff not gluing it. well hope this helps a bit any way .
  
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Default Re: Anyone know how to work with Tolex/vinyl? - 09-16-2008, 12:34 PM

You got some good tips from the guys . How did it turn out?
  
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Default Re: Anyone know how to work with Tolex/vinyl? - 09-16-2008, 09:31 PM

Show us PICs dammit


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