[floydmoline]

the building supplies dealers is what i was talking about, and most of them that i was looking at punch them in house...... they get a generic hammond steel case and punch them, it's like botique pedal makers, they charge a mint because they try to #1 make a weeks pay check off one sale so they don't have to have a regular job, or #2 charge alot to keep volume down so they don't have to work as hard to keep up with demand, and finally #3 other people more talented, that build a better box charge that so new guys think it's the standard and inflate their prices.