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Wounder what tubes will be best in it JJ's or Groove or the factory Mesa tubes or some other brand I know I want clean tubes that don't break up to early I will let my preamp do all the breaking up lol any thoughts on this anyone. It has 4-6L6's and 3-12AX7's

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I don't like Groove Tubes so much. I do like JJ and Mesa labelled tubes (which I read are Sovtek). And I like Sovtek. --Though there are some 'budget' Sovtek that make people dislike the Sovtek.

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Hey man, maybe this will help?

http://thetubestore.com/accessories.html

Check out the whole website it helped me make a tube decision and I don't even have my amp yet. I think I'm gonna go with the Tung-Sols.

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I looked at that site before I bought the amp lol if I get any tubes ( which I am sure I will ) cause I don't like Groove tubes that much either I will more then likely get the JJ's or Phillips they had the high ratings on harmonics and clarity but now to also decide if I want low numbers or high guess I will wait and see what numbers are in it now and see how soon they breakup and go from there if I can tell what numbers they are lol.

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the one with gold is the newer one. blue one is older. but the old one sounds better.