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« on: February 25, 2008, 11:15:47 PM »

Alright, i usally ive some info about the amps then give you the link to read more yourself, but to be honest i know nothing about these amps, nor have i read any reviews so your on your own this time guys, sorry..   but from what they say on the site, they boast to be a great hard rock/metal amp...  check it out, and give me your input please

http://www.bugera-amps.com
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« Reply #1 on: February 26, 2008, 08:42:35 AM »

thanks for the info will look into these amps a bit more.. w
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« Reply #2 on: February 26, 2008, 09:23:23 AM »

I won't be able to qualify these statements until I can rip these things apart and spread their guts all over my bench (it is a Monster Factory, you know), but here's what I 'think' I'm able to decypher from their spec sheets:

The 333 and 333XL seem to be knock-offs of the Marshall JCM2000 amps, in particular the DSL.  The 333 is a 6L6 version and the 333XL is an EL34 version.

The 6260/6262 is a not-so-veiled knock-off of the Peavey 5150/5150II.

Bugera is part of Beringer, who have been known to "study" other products close enough to get sued over it.  Close studying is about all we have with regard to tube technology, though.  The triode celebrated its 100th anniversary last year.  Jim Marshall said it best, "There is nothing new under the sun (with respect to tubes).  It has all been done before."  And it has.
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« Reply #3 on: February 27, 2008, 04:05:23 PM »

Man, I am hoping to try one really soon to see what they sound like.
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« Reply #4 on: February 27, 2008, 05:36:20 PM »

At those prices, I don't see how you could go wrong.  I'm reading a bunch of negative crap about them, but it's all from people who've never tried one to start with.  What a waste of words.

It's not going to be a high end Engl or Bogner, but it doesn't have to be.  It just has to sound better than those amps we already know that sound bad, but sell for twice the price.

I have no problem with Behringer gear at all.  I own some and have used other stuff and I have no complaints.  I also wouldn't blink twice at shelling out some corn for a head and cab.  Besides, if you get one and it really stinks (I doubt it), send it to me and I'll run it through the MONSTER-izer.  The machine that cures all amp ills. bringit
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« Reply #5 on: February 27, 2008, 05:52:44 PM »

At those prices, I don't see how you could go wrong.  I'm reading a bunch of negative crap about them, but it's all from people who've never tried one to start with.  What a waste of words.

It's not going to be a high end Engl or Bogner, but it doesn't have to be.  It just has to sound better than those amps we already know that sound bad, but sell for twice the price.

I have no problem with Behringer gear at all.  I own some and have used other stuff and I have no complaints.  I also wouldn't blink twice at shelling out some corn for a head and cab.  Besides, if you get one and it really stinks (I doubt it), send it to me and I'll run it through the MONSTER-izer.  The machine that cures all amp ills. bringit

haha, that's cool man! You mod amps too  love

This might sound odd to some, but the PV XXX is my top 5 favorite amp.  Which is reviewed in negative ways by so many.  There are small tricks to the XXX to make it sound better.  It all starts with the tubes right through the speakers.  I am not fond of the trebly Sheffields at all... It's a great match with a Mesa Boogie Recto cab with V30s.  Swap out the 12ax7 in the V2 with a 12at7 to cut back on that gain... and you got a beast.  Oh, after one learns how to opperate the active eq of course.

Not sure why I am rambling...lol. I guess because these amps are PV 5150 clones and I love PV xXx???  confused

Anyhow, yeah these look like the could be a nice amp for the money.  Perhaps they might need some 'personal' touch... but with that, could be great.

Sorry for the ramble.  biggrin
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« Reply #6 on: March 01, 2008, 08:57:23 PM »

They made copies of Boss pedals, too............








.......for cheap.....................

















.........and they turned out to be crap. Just saying.
Peaveys are cheap enough a cannot be killed. I'll stick with them.
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« Reply #7 on: March 01, 2008, 09:17:02 PM »

And the 333 series is supposed to be a XXX/JSX copy. They are going after Peavey's nitch.
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« Reply #8 on: March 01, 2008, 09:24:20 PM »

Probably less reliable as peavey tho
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« Reply #9 on: March 01, 2008, 09:45:42 PM »

well, it's behringer so yeah, I don't think they're very sturdy
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« Reply #10 on: March 02, 2008, 10:37:50 AM »

Still, I wouldn't mind trying one.
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« Reply #11 on: March 02, 2008, 07:08:07 PM »

Oh, no doubt, especially with this video
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhN6iLMtm74" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhN6iLMtm74</a>
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« Reply #12 on: March 02, 2008, 10:08:58 PM »

i have had quite a few behringer products (the G-100 direct box, a Eurodesk mixer, a 1X15 speaker cabinet (bugera), a tube composer) and i have no complaints, i hear lots bad stuff about their pedals, but imho boss pedals suck, sure they are indestructible, but they sound like shit.... i bought a peavey windsor when all the reviews said they suck, but i think they are amazing once you get comfortable with them, long story short self-proclaimed "tonemeisters" more oten than not are brand-meisters, they read more into a company logo than an actual product, or brand a company as junk from one product....... some of the best companies in the world produce junk, and don't get a bad rap, marshall and gibson are 2 shining examples, marshall make some really shitty amps, "mode 4" "TSL" the MG series, but one or maybe two models save them from a bad rep, and i have yet to find a modern gibson that isn't a prettier epiphone....... all of the modern gibsons i have played sound and play like anyother epiphone i have played, the only difference i can see or hear is gibsons are finished better, to me it appears they all come from the same lines in the factory, and quality control sticks the "sub-par" looking gibsons in the epiphone pile heh......
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« Reply #13 on: March 11, 2008, 01:46:05 PM »

That youtube clip sound pretty damn good to me.... i found the heavey disortion at the end not really up to par for me, but other then that the ceans and overdrive's sound really good
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« Reply #14 on: March 22, 2008, 05:33:54 AM »

i have had quite a few behringer products (the G-100 direct box, a Eurodesk mixer, a 1X15 speaker cabinet (bugera), a tube composer) and i have no complaints, i hear lots bad stuff about their pedals, but imho boss pedals suck, sure they are indestructible, but they sound like shit.... i bought a peavey windsor when all the reviews said they suck, but i think they are amazing once you get comfortable with them, long story short self-proclaimed "tonemeisters" more oten than not are brand-meisters, they read more into a company logo than an actual product, or brand a company as junk from one product....... some of the best companies in the world produce junk, and don't get a bad rap, marshall and gibson are 2 shining examples, marshall make some really shitty amps, "mode 4" "TSL" the MG series, but one or maybe two models save them from a bad rep, and i have yet to find a modern gibson that isn't a prettier epiphone....... all of the modern gibsons i have played sound and play like anyother epiphone i have played, the only difference i can see or hear is gibsons are finished better, to me it appears they all come from the same lines in the factory, and quality control sticks the "sub-par" looking gibsons in the epiphone pile heh......
Their recording/rack stuff is ok. EVERYTHING ELSE they make I have seen die while still fairly new. From 10buck items to $400 items(which is a lot of money for a Behringer item). If it smells like crap, and sounds like crap. I HAVE TO CALL IT CRAP. No hard feelings. Behringer is actually chinese for CRAP.
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